[LifeLiverTransp]

That headscarf is there for one and one reason only. To shame other women. If the catholic church jumped out of the history books to demand the right for its believers to wear it in office- you would rightfully tell them no. Because what that scarf yells at all those who do not wear it, through the voice of all the "believers" is "harlet, wrench, slut". If that thing was pushed by the catholic church, or evangelicals, you would be on the barricades by now. But it is by a supressed minority? Well that minority is not supressed in over 40 countries. In fact its the majority there, and supresses anyone not wearing a headscarf. Want to see what happens if you do not wear a headscarf there?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jul/05/egypt-women-ra...

That machoism is very real in the middle east- and the headscarf is part of the dividing and conquering. Nothing less. Cause there is always the mother and saint who wears it and the "cheap" whores free to hunt who dont.

May be that for some, this clothing has already lost its symbolism, like the white-wedding dress lost the symbolism of virginity it once held for christianity. If it has no symbolic value, why make such a fuzz about wearing it at all?

But in that case, i rather be safe then sorry.

[0815test]

> Because what that scarf yells at all those who do not wear it, through the voice of all the "believers" is "harlet, wrench, slut".

That's a problem with that religion-dominated subculture, not with the symbolism itself. The notion that women should be shamed for the mere act of wearing a particular piece of clothing shuch as a headscarf is just as toxic as the one you're reacting to in your comment.

[LifeLiverTransp]

It shouldnt matter. But that dream is for another paradise edition of earth yet to come.

Its really difficult to find out wether a piece of clothing was a personal choice or something chosen/force upon a person to define in and outgroups. Basically, it boils down to detecting a thought-crime against open society.

So why not agree on some middle ground. Transparent Headscarfs? Headscarfs made from hair-extensions? Something like that?

[crooked-v]

> So why not agree on some middle ground. Transparent Headscarfs? Headscarfs made from hair-extensions? Something like that?

Are you intentionally trying to sound like you're writing a South Park episode, or is that accidental?

[LifeLiverTransp]

You know what - seperation from society, aka the public plaza from any religion and attempts to impose religion like dogmas/rules/systems.

It really is the most easy way out. Nobody gets to errect his borderwalls of textile or lack thereof in main street. We vote on a standard, and thats it. That way all those warmongers steering the soupkitchen of hate cant warm on the heat of the debate. The only solution is not to play.

[crooked-v]

> and attempts to impose religion like dogmas/rules/systems

So why do you want to impose Christian religious standards of bare heads on Muslims?

[_rutinerad]

Bare heads is our default, is it not?

[currymj]

the law also targets male Jews and Sikhs, though, so the idea that it’s about liberating women doesn’t make much sense.

[ackfoo]

> "harlet, wrench, slut"

LOL. Also, keep your nuts covered or you're screwed.