[jasode]

Incognito only works with a new session; it will still eventually trigger the paywall.

See screenshot of this story made a few minutes ago: https://imgur.com/a/WcR8E9T

The toolbar shows "Incognito" and yet the article is blocked by the paywall. NYTimes always shows a paywall after 2 or 3 free articles are hit even in incognito mode.

To "reset" the free articles odometer, I have to completely exit Google Chrome and restart in incognito again. (Deleting cookies also does not work.) This is a hassle since I sometimes keep a continuous Chrome up session up for several weeks with dozens of tabs open.

(I previously played around for 5 minutes in Developer Tools to try and debug NYTimes javascript code to see what they test for besides cookies. I didn't find anything obvious and gave up. (I'm guessing it might have something to do with Local Storage but there's no obvious Chrome setting to delete that other than quitting the entire browser and restarting.))

[ocdtrekkie]

Off-topic, on an off-topic comment thread:

> I sometimes keep a continuous Chrome up session up for several weeks with a dozens of tabs open

I am still completely mystified why people do this. Browser tabs were never intended to be used this way, bookmarks are. You are making the process of web browsing unnecessarily hard on yourself, and browser makers have had to invest significant effort into features regarding mass tab management just for this bizarre habit.

[jasode]

>Browser tabs were never intended to be used this way, bookmarks are.

The problem with booksmarks is that the tabs are not open. The booksmarks manager UI only show the title of the webpage but not what full page rendering is. Titles are often meaningless.

Of course, I could type in a better title when saving the bookmark... or... just simply not close the tab and consider it part of a "queue" to read later in a few days. It's lazier and easier. Plus the full page already completely rendered visually reminds me why I wanted to read it later.

For the webpages I consider as reference material, I do bookmark those.

[ocdtrekkie]

Why would you want hundreds of full page renderings open on your computer at one time while you're doing other things? I know browsers have since implemented optimizations to keep tabs suspended and reduce their performance hit, but I still don't understand why anyone would want this.

Would a screenshot being saved with your bookmark solve this need?

[jasode]

>Why would you want hundreds of full page renderings open on your computer at one time while you're doing other things?

For me, it's not hundreds. It's usually less than 50.

For throwaway content (not elevated to reference), the active tabs are easier to get to than navigating the bookmarks UI.

>Would a screenshot being saved with your bookmark solve this need?

It might help in some aspects but the core problem remains: the bookmarks UI is a separate area that I don't want to "manage" and that effort isn't worth it unless the webpage is promoted to reference status. Dozens of open tabs are just way easier and a more seamless experience. I often cycle through open tabs with Ctrl+PgUp and Ctrl+PgDn similar to cycling through active windows with Alt-Tab. Bookmarks UI don't have a "cycle" mode.

[ams6110]

Yep. I run maybe half-a-dozen open tabs at any one time. And I close my browser at least once per day, which purges cookies, history, and cache. I rarely have issues with paywalls unless there is just no grace period at all for free article views.