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by duado 2646 days ago
Making something that’s easy to take apart often makes it bigger, because interfaces need to be modularized. I’ve never needed to open one of my iPhones and would not want them 1mm thicker to be repairable.
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Maybe you've never needed to open your iphone because it would serve no purpose. If I could upgrade my old iphone by taking it apart, I wouldn't have bought a new one in the first place...
You don’t have to buy a new iPhone to replace the battery, so presumably you’re imagining upgrading the processors, camera, sensors or some other aspect of the iPhone. Those components are so tightly integrated and custom fitted in each iteration of the device that it is technically impossible to “upgrade” them independently.
Would you honestly be inconvenienced by the extra 1mm ? You could get the ability to replace your battery or screen on reasonable prices,
I once had a Mazda 6. In order replace the PCV valve one has to remove the manifold. A ten minutes job on any other car was a couple hours in this one. They didn't make it easy just because I have the right to repair it myself.

You shouldn't have to deal with an extra mm and all the inconvenience that comes along with it just to support my right to replace the battery.

Do you use a 4s for its minimalist size?
SE.
> Making something that’s easy to take apart often makes it bigger, because interfaces need to be modularized.

So, you can still make it mandatory where you don't need to make things bigger?

But who decides? There is going to be a ministry of "did it need to be so compact?" staffed by disinterested experts?

I'd love more things to be fixable but this kind of micro-management sounds terrifying.

> But who decides?

Well, I dunno, but that's a question with every law, and thus not exactly an argument by itself?

> I'd love more things to be fixable but this kind of micro-management sounds terrifying.

But why would there need to be micro-management?

Because whether or not something could have been designed and made differently is a difficult, subjective, decision.

We're not talking about the need to have cops decide whether 71MPH was too fast or not. We're talking about whether your customers would hypothetically have been as satisfied with an iphone that was 1mm thicker, because if they would, there's a law which says you have to make it repairable. Bring your expert witnesses and panel surveys to convince the jury.

That's the opposite of what the comment meant. The suggestion is that where it doesn't change the size/quality you mandate easier disassembly. Next to zero subjectivity.
Yes I got that. But my point is that this involves second-guessing every design decision.

You propose some new design which is more compact / easier to manufacture / more reliable because it has fewer connectors, and then you take it to the ministry for approval. How do they know whether your changes are justified? Maybe they sketch an easier-to-disassemble variant which is no bigger than yours, and reject your design, but they don't understand the why it will cost you twice as much to assemble that design (in your factory, with your workforce) or why you rejected that kind of connector (your experience with the supplier, or your vibration tests). Can you prove why you made these decisions? Call expert witnesses? This just seems like an impossible minefield to me.

I think better to tilt the balance in other ways, like pushing longer guarantees (regardless of whether the best solution is an unbreakable one-piece object, or a repairable one) and forcing recycling (so that the sticker price includes more of the total lifecycle cost).