[purple-dragon]

I know what’s real and I know people both gay and not gay (both adult and children) that have to deal with prejudicial treatment simply because of how they “sound”. But please, continue to defend yourself judging people or putting them in a box over something so superficial if you like—just don’t expect anyone to find it endearing.

[afiori]

I upvoted you because I truly believe this is today still a serious problem, but I also want to defend the complete opposite views because I believe they can lead to a better solution.

There is a publicly recognized stereotype of gay man (essentially Jack from Will & Grace) which is not a faithful depiction of many homosexual men, I find wrong to assume that it is indeed faithful (all gay man are like that and vice versa). What I think will be a solution to this prejudice is not negating the stereotype but divorcing it from the actual sexual orientation of the individual.

I believe that many heterosexual males would be more comfortable with a more effeminate personality and that an homosexual can be at any point of the "virility" spectrum, still the spectrum exist.

[jamesrom]

I'm making no such defense. But since you are no longer being rational at this point I'll just say that speech is used to communicate your identity, and to ignore that idea is more harmful than to understand it.

[afiori]

> since you are no longer being rational at this point

I am not who you are answering to. I don't think purple-dragon is being irrational here, you initial comments were easy to misunderstand and negative stereotypes of homosexuality are still a problem today. Assuming goodwill I actually think that your comment had nothing wrong in it (assuming you do not actually think that that flight attendant "must" be gay or that all gay behave like that), still purple-dragon is not wrong either in reading it as a negative depiction. Internet conversations are just hard...

[jamesrom]

Apologies, I must have missed the username

[purple-dragon]

You can pull the ripcord if you like, but I said nothing irrational. Some may purposely choose to express aspects of their identity through vocalization—I don’t disagree—but counter examples abound.