[vfinn]

Ah, silly me. I forgot to mention that I was referring to his 3 hour Youtube workshop (link was in the summary), not the summary itself. Hard to imagine the book would be that different. Still, I appreciated the applied Krishnamurti :).

[ehsanu1]

I don't believe Marshall's idea is to apply a template-based approach to communication, if that is what you mean. The templates themselves are not NVC, but are rather a guide to help the uninitiated to apply the philosophy behind NVC.

Aside: I'm definitely interested in learning more about Krishnamurti after reading this thread of conversation.

[vfinn]

Ok, sounds great :). Have patience with Krishnamurti, because he's very subtle. First time I read his book, The Awakening of Intelligence, I thought he was nice but rather empty in content, because I saw his message intellectually, which just the thing you shouldn't do. A few years later I read it again, and started to see, and the things I agreed with kept increasing the more I listened to him.

[__blockcipher__]

Catching up now. Would highly recommend listening to some of his talks, or reading some of his books. Freedom from the Known is very accessible; it's basically a "cleaned up" version of his talks.

I'm currently reading Krishnamurti's Notebook, which is absolutely beautiful. But perhaps difficult to understand if you're not familiar with his terminology/way of thinking.

He uses a lot of words, like religion, meditation, truth, with a meaning that is entirely different from how we normally use them.

His whole way of thinking is so foreign that when I first encountered him it seemed almost boring. But as I kept going I was really enraptured by the beauty of the way of thinking he models. He's very much a "first principles" thinker, but from an internal psychological perspective rather than in the traditional external "scientific" sense. (Which is not to say that he's unscientific. Just that the focus of his attention begins from internal perception).

I've already written a novel here, but his whole life story is fascinating. His wikipedia page is a surprisingly thorough account. However I didn't learn his life story until after having been exposed to a bunch of his talks, and thus I might be biased but I think that's the right order to do it in. He talks about himself occasionally, but tends to drop small details rather than talking endlessly about himself.

Here's a couple random links:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ux-1aRB8Res&list=PLfZ5kzVg_z...

^ The above is a series of 18 talks with Allan W Anderson (some sort of theologian/philosopher type professor). This series is great because you get to see how the views/behavior of Anderson change as he engages in dialogue with Krishamurti.

His "public" talks (i.e. more like "lectures" although he was adamant that they were not to be treated as such) are in a different style, but the same content is covered.

If you want just one talk, I really enjoyed this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyNeWEGgmFQ It's the 7th of a series of talks, so skipping right to that one is going "out of order", but the content is pretty great. (I pulled that talk randomly from some notes of mine).

Side note: Krishnamurti was a significant influence on Alan Watts, Aldous Huxley, and the physicist David Bohm.