[mattmanser]

ORMs are great for simple stuff, but there's nothing stopping you from switching to raw SQL for more complex stuff.

Why can't you do both? I do it all the time.

[thymanl23]

In an ORM, the returned objects from even raw SQL is still ORM objects (database-aware objects). I prefer keeping the business logic layer distinct from the data access layer, so I prefer for the return objects to be pure business objects. Maybe I'm being too anal and forcing a distinction where there doesn't need one?