[TheRealDunkirk]

The government. The government has been funding Oracle from the start, and it's never stopped. Who do you think the NSA and CIA use for all of their data storage and warehousing? It was the FBI that started this mess, and it's the rest of the government that continues it. Ellison often comes off as untouchable in this stories, and that's because he is. He made it possible for the spooks to build "Echelon" 30 years ago. God knows what that's morphed into now. He's a hero to them.

Yes, I'm being purposely sardonic, but only a little.

[wangchungtonite]

We know what echelon morphed into. Much of it was in the Snowden docs. If you are highly technical it’s not hard to imagine a few steps forward from what was in that release and realize just how massive the infrastructure and internet vacuum is.

[TheRealDunkirk]

Good point. More specifically, I was thinking about the supposed "acres" of underground computers that was slurping up phone call data when the program was discovered. I wonder how much storage and equipment it all takes now.

[kf77ffkaa]

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