[mirceal]

given the option I will take java any day or night. we developers like to experiment things and put them on our resumes, but once the kool-aid is gone very few things stand the test of time.

imho, go wouldn’t be a thing if it didn’t have [initial] backing from google.

[ilovecaching]

Go grew as a result of the open source ecosystem that grew around Docker. Google has backed plenty of other languages that have gone nowhere, so I think it's a fallacy to claim that's why Go has risen in popularity. If anything it was containerization and maybe the fact that Ken and Pike were involved more than the Google brand.

Go is also just really great. You don't need an IDE or a big crusty language to write good software. Go is small, compiles quickly, runs efficiently, is easy to teach, and has great tooling that lets you get up in running in just a few minutes. The ecosystem is centered around open source, the Go project itself including the name, logos, and specification are open source, and the Go conference in Denver is fantastic.

Go is not kool-aid.

[mirceal]

we’ll agree to disagree here. I believe it’s kool-aid and unless you use it in one of the few niches where it shines it’s a disaster waiting to happen.

the Google brand helped immensely and containers/docker are their own flavor of kool-aid. The art of actually thinking about how you’ll package and deploy your software is lost. Put it in a docker container and fuck it. Fuck security, fuck ever understanding what you’re running, ship it fast/ship it now. My test for docker and its own flavor of koolaid is to ask its supportes what a container is. 95% don’t know. Yep