[sokoloff]

> Even in places with high COL, 91k as an entry-level front end dev is unrealistic if they have no prior experience.

In the metro Boston area, fresh college grads are getting $100K+bonus typically, with upside from there. I think $91K is not at all unrealistic.

[Latteland]

130k plus is the typical salary with a college grad in a top company. We are a startup in Seattle, not a unicorn, you've probably not heard of us, and we pay 135k + options for new college hires. We are told our comp is too low by people.

[strikelaserclaw]

I mean those are your cream of the crop type candidates i'm assuming not a person who just got pumped out of a 12 week bootcamp. I would assume < 10% of people with no experience entering the field get 100k+. Even 10% might be a large number.

[Latteland]

They are very good bachelors. I don't think someone with 12 weeks in bootcamp can pass the interview bar. We ask about multithreaded programming in C++, a series of programming challenges, and about theory of computer science, software engineering principals. Nothing that I wouldn't expect from my previous experience with fang like companies.

[mattmanser]

Why would a frontend dev need to know multithreaded programming in C++, knowledge which a tiny percentage of startups need?

FAANG are recruiting high-level programmers, not people hooking up forms to APIs.

[Latteland]

I think I missed something - my startup needs backend devs, not frontend.

[gaspoweredcat]

seriously? evidently things are very different over there, here in the UK youd be lucky to get much over £25-30k in an entry level job and if you dont have a few years experience under your belt then you better be prepared for a long fight to get a position at all

[sokoloff]

Dead serious. I equally don't understand the EU/UK market for programmers. I think US salaries seem unsustainably high and European salaries unsustainably low, especially in large cities...