[rayiner]

Sad this is even necessary. Progressive loading is a relic of a bygone 28.8 kbps era. Connections are fast enough is where you should be able to draw everything into an off-screen buffer and display the completed page in one go.

[kevingadd]

People on lower quality connections (high packet loss/roundtrip) eat a lot of delay on page loads because the average site connects to like 20+ servers and the browser has to spin up a bunch of http connections. Then you have to wait for javascript to load... this is unavoidable.

[rayiner]

> Then you have to wait for javascript to load... this is unavoidable.

JavaScript is not “unavoidable,” it’s a self-inflicted gunshot wound.