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by dpark 2654 days ago
It may be true that Google no longer deserves the benefit of the doubt. The hyperbolic “every product” doesn’t help your case, though. Claiming that they engage in misleading behavior with every product, especially with no supporting evidence or examples, makes it look like you just have an axe to grind.
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You are correct, let me list the Google services I’ve experienced deception from Google on:

YouTube, GMail, Google search, Google Docs, Google Drive, Google ads (both selling and buying), and GCP.

To me, that seems like every core product they offer, and so a little hyperbole is appropriate when calling out the misconduct of a gigacrime[0] syndicate.

It is, however, very HN to say I was too hyperbolic and mean to the gigacrime supyndicate.

[0] I mean this in the technical sense — I believe YouTube has committed over 1 billion acts of copyright infringement for profit, given that Google’s editorializing removes their safe harbor coverage. I believe other parts of Alphabet have similarly engaged in “scaled petty crime”.

Edit to footnote: I do want to say, I don’t think Google is unique in this category — and it should be taken partly as a criticism of corporate governance (particularly American), rather than Google in particular, that any business is allowed to operate that way.

You've just listed a bunch of services, in no way have you described how they use deceptive strategies in them.
The whole purpose of all these Google services is to collect private data. Very few people actually realize the scope and power of the data they are collecting and how it is used, and how they plan to use it when they will have the technical capability. If they would have it written out in clear text exactly what they do with this data, and what they can do with it in the future then nobody would use their services. Therefore all these services are deceptive.
Because I don’t care to.

It’s easy enough to Google literally any of them and read substantial numbers of articles on their practices:

For example, AdWords misrepresents clicks by slow rolling fraud mitigation and Google is quite deceptive about what various statistical measures and advertising practices actually deliver.

As another, YouTube has a quasi-DMCA process while feigning that it’s a safe harbor purveyor of information, while in fact maintaining an editorialized anthology. This quasi-DMCA process is frequently used to steal ad revenue from creators through acts of fraud which Google’s automated systems and lack of human support (intentionally) don’t mitigate.

It’s just not worth my morning to document all of it, because it’s literally a story a week for years. And a dozen stories a week for the past few years.