[listenallyall]

>> "So why did you leave your last company?"

"I left because I was incapable of persuading management of the effectiveness and importance of my team and its contribution to the overall enterprise."

"Wow, don't you think you're being a little hard on yourself?"

"Well, they gave away my team's bonus to another team, despite my objections."

"That's unfortunate, but that still doesn't really explain why you left your last company."

"Well, despite the clear signal they sent when they took away my team's bonus, I didn't get the hint and completely misjudged my importance to the company. See, I painted myself into a corner by giving the executive team an ultimatum."

"Hmmm, yea, not very wise, you probably do suck as a manager."

[Latteland]

It doesn't mean you suck as a manger that you don't get what you want. You never get all of what you want. I can only imagine someone saying that has no experience as a manager, or has been lucky and not found themselves in difficult circumstances. What sucks is if you don't even try to advocate appropriately for your team.