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by lustysocietyorg 2650 days ago
What are the facts against Huawei ? Do you have any ?

Here are some facts against the USA and European politicians and secret services and their collusion:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jul/08/nsa-tapped-g...

Quote: The spying row has also been stirred by allegations that Merkel’s staff gave the German BND foreign intelligence agency a green light to help the NSA spy on European firms and officials.

https://www.europeansources.info/record/german-intelligence-...

Title: German intelligence employee arrested on suspicion of spying for US on Bundestag NSA committee

https://theintercept.com/2018/02/17/gchq-belgacom-investigat...

Quote: The Belgacom breach sparked outrage in Europe’s political institutions and made global headlines. But Belgium’s effort to identify the spies responsible and hold them accountable faced roadblocks at almost every turn. Europol, the European Union’s law enforcement agency, refused to assist. Prosecutors overseeing the case feared triggering a major diplomatic dispute and were reluctant to pursue it aggressively. Meanwhile, British spies tried to destroy the evidence. “We wanted to show that as a small country, we would not be bullied,” said a source close to the investigation. “But we were fighting against two big cyberarmies from the U.K. and the U.S. We knew we could never win this.”

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u...

Quote: The consultant Florian Kling, formerly a cyber officer and public relations expert for the German Armed Forces, told Stoltenberg on Twitter : "Explain why the civil network is important to NATO, how NATO / US would communicate through these channels "It's not a military or landline core, and should not I trust our crypto capabilities?" Other military officials also see this as follows: "Our intelligence services work together excellently - classified information is guaranteed not to be transported via a 4G or 5G network, but rather in completely different ways," said Patrick Sensburg on Deutschlandradio . The CDU deputy and lieutenant colonel of the reserve sits in the intelligence committee Parlamentarisches Kontrollgremium (PKGr). "This is about the exercise of economic power," emphasized Professor Sensburg.

1 comments

>>> Certain opinions or facts are downvoted without any contradicting facts. Now matter how reasonable the opinion or true the fact is.

>> Not really in this case. Take the comment in question: there's no fact or even much opinion there. It's mostly innuendo.

> What are the facts against Huawei ? Do you have any ?

What about Huawei? I was talking about ElBarto's comment, as is everyone in this entire thread. He was just scolded by a mod about his conduct, so I don't think my take was too far off.

I do not remember anymore what ElBarto wrote and it is censored now.

But it was related to the boycott of Huawei. It was reasonable like all other good critical comments that were downvoted to a grey font color at that time. I replied to the poster who wondered why ElBarto's post was downvoted because there was nothing wrong with it when I read it.

Besides, my comment was downvoted too without any valid criticism and thus it was validated.

> I do not remember anymore what ElBarto wrote and it is censored now.

> I replied to the poster who wondered why ElBarto's post was downvoted because there was nothing wrong with it when I read it.

There was something wrong with it, but you didn't understand it. That's fine, but understand that things you can't perceive still exist. Lots of people found fault with it, including a mod. Don't you think that could mean something actually was wrong with it?

However, if you've already forgotten it, maybe we should drop it?

> But it was related to the boycott of Huawei.

Barely and unproductively, as I outlined above.

> Besides, my comment was downvoted too without any valid criticism and thus it was validated.

It's common practice here to downvote comments that complain about downvotes, because they don't actually add to the discussion. Complaining about voting is frowned upon.

> It's common practice here to downvote comments that complain about downvotes, because they don't actually add to the discussion. Complaining about voting is frowned upon.

I answered a question.

Downvoting without giving a reason is lazy selfish cowardly trolling without contributing anything useful.

A downvote is even worse than an insult because:

- an insult shows the mindset and the stupidity of the insulting person.

- as intended, a downvote leads to deranking of the comment and thus "eradication" for many other readers who do not care to read downvoted comments or the last comments of many.

You're wasting your time. You've forgotten the content of the comment that spurred this thread, and I'm not interested in getting into some weird discussion about your views on downvoting in general.