[bryanwb]

wow, i left vim for emacs 3 years ago solely because of org-mode. If this matures i might go back

[yangyang]

I left vim for emacs solely because of how much nicer emacs lisp is than scripting stuff in vim: https://github.com/hsitz/VimOrganizer/blob/master/ftplugin/o....

[xtho]

With the introduction of additional data structures (lists, dictionaries that can also be used for prototype-based programming) in vim7, I don't think vimscript is that bad. And you can also use python/ruby/perl/tcl/scheme/lua/whatever when you have the proper version of vim.

[yangyang]

I'm glad it's improving.

Whilst being able to script vim with lots of different languages is great, it's a shame it's not just one, since nobody really wants some hybrid beast linked against 6 different interpreters just to run a few scripts in one's editor.

[bryanwb]

I agree that vim scripting is crap but hjkl for navigation is just so addictive

[yangyang]

Very true. I find the emacs shortcuts nicer on command lines though. I find the modality is too much of an overhead there.