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by Grustaf 2656 days ago
It feels like you are getting quite far from the original question now.
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I don't think so. Your original comment doesn't really reflect the challenges someone would face getting a job in Stockholm today as a result of doing a startup instead of having joined their peers in the more traditional route of university, mortgage and kids. You might very get a job and a similar salary, but you will instead pay the price over time in finances, quality of life and competitiveness.

I would say that is very relevant to the question since picking the correct job market will be crucial to whether they will be able to transition to a normal career or not. In a place like Stockholm you mostly can't since you likely won't have, or be able to make, the money for a decent life at a decent cost in many years. If they were to instead choose a job market that looked different in terms of housing or taxes they wouldn't be at the same large disadvantage and would instead just have to recoup the years spent doing something else.

Did you read the question? It has nothing to do with choosing the right market.

He asks if it will be hard for him to find a job and the answer is “no”, it won’t be hard. He is not asking if he should have made a different choice 7 years ago or if he could have had more savings in the bank.

And he is most definitely not asking about Stockholm, that was an example from _my_ life.

The question is not how to get any job, but how to join the job market effectively. That is hard to do that in places like Stockholm today, because the increase in cost of living de facto means taking a pay cut. If you are 25 you might be able to afford to wait a few years and hope that things go your way, but not at 31 when most people would and should expect more.

So the answer isn't really "no" when the condition to getting the job is spending years saving for the down payment of a hundred year mortgage at huge prices just to have somewhere decent to live. I don't think anyone is surprised that regions with these conditions have a shortage of talent. It might however be true that getting a job in Berlin won't be a problem, but that isn't universal. Your experiences doesn't really match the situation today.

Why do you keep talking about Stockholm and Berlin? Does he even live in Europe?

And the guy is not moving anywhere, so there’s no pay cut. He just wants a job. Read the damned question. He will get a job within a week unless he lives in Japan or somewhere where they are very formal and inflexiable about education requirements.

I get it that you thikn Stockholm housing is expensive but it’s really irrelevant to the question so please leave it.

You mentioned Stockholm as an example of being able to get a job anywhere. I am saying that this is incorrect because there can be large consequences of moving to or staying in places _like_ Stockholm. This will apply to other cities as well. It doesn't take Japan to get a significantly worse deal by not following the traditional route.

The author is looking for advice on what to do the prepare to enter the job market. That is why people are discussing things like whether to finish a degree, practicing interview questions or trying to join FAANG. Part of that preparation is looking at what you actually get for your skills. And in some places, that had a certain development, you will get a lot less for your skills by not having followed a traditional route. That is something very relevant to consider.

I will now leave the question however, because it is pointless to go on.