[eps]

Mods, is this sort of spam blast an acceptable behavior on HN now - https://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=pkhach ?

It could've been a decent Show HN discussion, but as it stands this is nothing more than an ad for a commercial software.

[dang]

It's a bit over the line. The FAQ says a small number of reposts is ok if a topic hasn't had significant attention yet: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html. Now that this has, the reposts should stop.

[miles]

It's always felt as if HN members not only should, but as a rule do, submit links they've found of interest or value. If a member merely and repeatedly submits their own commercial project(s), it feels out of alignment with the spirit of the site.

More explicit rules or code (like limiting the frequency of submissions from a given member to the same domain name, etc) may not be necessary, as the voting system generally seems to work quite well. Or perhaps such code is already in place? which would help explain the high quality content on HN.

As ever, thank you Dan (and Scott) for maintaining this wonderful resource.

[dang]

There are a lot of users who come to HN just to submit their own stuff, aren't participating in the community, but don't realize that they're breaking any norms either. We tend not to treat them as spammers unless they really overdo it. Often we explain to them that (a) using HN just for promotion is something the community doesn't like, and which we eventually penalize or even ban accounts for; (b) if they want to post to HN it would be better to fully join the community and submit a variety of things they personally find intellectually interesting, and (c) if they do that, it's fine to occasionally include their own stuff.

Most people respond to that explanation pretty well and HN has even gained a few excellent submitters that way. So we've learned to treat this class of users with a lighter touch than outright spammers, who mostly leave quite different fingerprints.

(p.s. thanks for the kind words!)

[pkhach]

Please check the provided links.

All tools are absolutely free and created in hope to help developers in their everyday work.

Why do you say that we promote our commercial software?

[dang]

If you read my explanation at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19392902 you'll probably see where eps and other users are coming from.

The issue isn't submitting your own stuff, it's only using HN to do that. That comes across as promotional, and HN readers don't like it because you aren't really participating in the community. Much better would be to join as a reader and general submitter, and use the site for gratifying intellectual curiosity—your own and others'. That's the primary purpose of HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.

The other thing you can do, when submitting your own stuff, is add text explaining how you came to work on this and what's different about it. If you say things that interest others, you'll be more likely to get a conversation. Sharing what personally interests you (not the same thing as what's in your personal interest!) is often a way to get others interested too.

[pkhach]

ok thanks for clarification