[thwarted]

"…Meanwhile, 5 billion users do not care and want things to be easy, fast, work well, and be well integrated."

They can see blog titles, so... no dice.)

Hard to place all of the blame on the open standards people if the other side doesn't want to do anything other than wall people in by not cooperating, with open standards or each other.

[Swizec]

As an enginner I really love and support open standards.

As a user I’m on Apple everything because shit just works and gets out of my way.

[onion2k]

As a user I’m on Apple everything because shit just works and gets out of my way.

Every time you load a webpage or send an email that content could be coming from dozens of different servers that all work together to deliver content seamlessly. A website Just Works whether it's served by nginx or Apache or IIS or caddy or.. you get the idea.

The delivery mechanism of Internet content is a perfect example of standards working. The content side of things is getting there but there's a way to go yet.

[Moru]

It's funny how I always hear this about apple but every time I try to use the company issued iPhone I get stuck trying to do something that just can't be done. Can't even plug in a standard sd card or an audio plug...

[dmitriid]

Thank god that you can't plug in an SD card into an iPhone. Disallowing that was one of the smartest decisions by Apple.

In Android world there's the constant flow of "why can't I save the app, or app data, or why doesn't the app save the data onto the SD card, and keeps dumping everything into internal storage".

[worble]

>Thank god that you can't plug in an SD card into an iPhone. Disallowing that was one of the smartest decisions by Apple.

Thank god people can't expand their own storage and instead have to pay inordinate amounts for internal storage? What?

[dmitriid]

> Thank god people can't expand their own storage

If that expansion worked reliably, consistently and in non-confusing manner. If apps could be reliably, consistently and in non-confusing manner bet told to install to external storage, keep their data there, and save their data there.

[Swizec]

What kind of mad man uses SD cards with their phone? That’s what the 256gb of internal storage is for.

Modern Androids don’t have audio plugs anymore either by the way.

But really it sounds liek your problem is that only the company phone is Apple. The argument really only works when all your devices are apple. Preferably including your whole family.

If you prefer Android, then all your devices should be that and you’re gonna hvae a great time.

That’s kinda the joke here. Nobody cares about open standards as long as everything they do belongs to a single “stack” because interoperability sucks. Like really sucks. Probably on purpose.

Look no further than trying to repeat a Spotify song on Alexa. “Sorry repeating songs is not supported on Spotify”. My ass it isnt you just don’t want to.

[TeMPOraL]

Upvoted for conclusion, with which I wholeheartedly agree, but wrt. the first two things - come on. Audio jacks are still a thing (despite some companies being assholes and removing it; I guess the next round, I'll still stay with Samsung). As for SD card - well, they have their uses. They're pretty good for storing and swapping data, and flash degradation is a problem for longevity of smartphones. TBH, I'd pay extra for a phone that lets you easily replace its internal flash.

> Probably on purpose.

Totally. A lot of cases look like deliberately breaking what could be better implemented in an interoperable way. And Apple isn't beyond blame here; what's up with breaking Bluetooth, for instance?

[JohnFen]

> What kind of mad man uses SD cards with their phone?

I do. It's extremely handy to use them to transfer for very large files, amongst a million other things. Soldered-in storage does not eliminate the need for removable storage.

> Modern Androids don’t have audio plugs anymore either by the way.

Yes, they do. Not the super-high-end phones (which is one of the several reasons why those aren't of interest to me), but tons of mid-range and lower phones do.

[Moru]

I'm a dinosaur, I only use winamp for music. It still works as I want it. I can change songs faster at any time I want to, no matter what I'm doing on the computer with global keys. No need to break away from my flow state.

I fully expect to be moded into oblivion for speaking anything except praise for the apple frenchise.

I'm also aware that some androids don't have what I want but I still have a choise what I buy. Most of my phones have replaceable batteries for example. And sd cards can prevent me from having to buy another phone when the 256 GB internal storage is full.

I'm old enough to remember "640 MB should be enough..."

[grepballsoffire]

I'm mainly a dinosaur for wanting audio jacks as i still use my old Sennheiser headphones that I bought in 2006, and still work perfectly. I did switch to Bluetooth headphones for a while but they fell apart after 12 months.

I feel like prices haven't moved in line with inflation, it's just planned obsolescence has moved further up the price range.

That said, I'm aware that I could buy a second hand iPhone with an audio jack if I really wanted.

[mattadams]

There is something to be said about wired peripherals... their dependability, ease of use and lack of wasteful batteries that just end up in a landfill.

[wycy]

> I fully expect to be moded into oblivion for speaking anything except praise for the apple frenchise.

No one speaks praise about iTunes.

[welly]

> 640 MB should be enough...

MB? I'm old enough to remember Bill say 640KB is enough!

[icebraining]

"I've said some stupid things and some wrong things, but not that. No one involved in computers would ever say that a certain amount of memory is enough for all time." -- Bill Gates