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by kuhhk 2662 days ago
> I can’t understand the doctors that didn’t say fuck it I don’t care what these morons think and didn’t just vaccinated the kid.

Probably because they didn’t want to lose their medical license, and make their degree (that they’re still paying back their debt on) suddenly worthless?
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dogma1138 2662 days ago
The a medical board that revokes their license it should be disbanded, forcing someone to suffer through this seems to be directly go against the Hippocratic oath.
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beatgammit 2661 days ago
Forcing someone to undergo a procedure that they explicitly do not want is far worse than harming someone at their request IMO.

Doctors aren't there to make everyone healthy, doctors are there to offer their services when desired. Sometimes they have to make a tough call and can't ask permission (e.g. patient is incapacitated and the legal authority isn't available), but directly going against someone's wishes is harm.

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candiodari 2659 days ago
If doctors aren't careful they can be used as weapons against others. They give people access to very dangerous substances, which can be used for poisoning or ... they may institute mandatory treatment, and use violence against their patients (in case of child abuse, psychiatric illnesses, contagious diseases, war/disaster scenarios ...)

The rule, that has been thought very careful about for thousands of years is that a doctor CANNOT override a patient, or responsible parent's wishes, except where it poses a clear and present lethal danger to others. If the patient cannot make their wishes clear, it is assumed (but confirmed ASAP) that they want to follow the doctor's best judgement to let them survive. Vaccination is generally not considered one of the cases where overriding the patient's wishes is reasonable.

There are other WTF medical opinions of people that doctors will advise on, but NOTHING else. Chief among them "but my natural healer/homeoptahic/guru/... said to ...". A close second "I hate doctors because they're evil/money-grabbing/... and so I'm not going to get ... treated". Both cannot be overridden, not even in psychiatric patients.

If the child wants it, but the parent refuses, I believe they mostly have a free choice legally and ethically at that point, but every doctor I've ever known would vaccinate under those circumstances.

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