[lambda_lover]

Your discussion of "real time video chat clients" has me cracking up; it seemed that a myriad of pieces of software had this figured out in the 2000s, but today I can't think of a single piece of software that I'd actually want to use for video chat. All of them have some fatal Achilles' Heel: Facetime has security problems/previously did not have group chats/is exclusive to Apple OSes, Skype is laggy and has more connection problems than any piece of software I've ever used, Google Hangouts chokes once you get to 3 or 4 participants and frequently has issues with even 2 participants, Duo is only usable on Android/iOS as far as I know... does anybody have a good client that they can actually recommend?

Myself, I've gone back to using Ventrilo because I realized that I really don't care about having video.

[com2kid]

I mean sure, video chat is overrated... but the tech is there, it just turned out it isn't quite as desirable as first imagined!

Firefox Hello worked remarkably well IMHO, it was super simple to use.

The field is full of video chat clients though. Uber-Conf is popular, although I think the % of problem free calls I've had with them is less than 50%.

Zoom has worked well for me, no real issues.

Facebook Messenger, privacy issues aside, works well.

[petra]

Have a look at Vsee. Aimed at doctors, meaning they're probably reliable and secure. And they have a free version.