[flukus]

> It's not a perfect world and IMO most people really aren't trying / putting in the effort on the things we think they should

That's a managerial problem not a technical one, so any technical solution like dumbing down the user interface will almost certainly fail.

[Aeolun]

If your user interface is so simple that understanding it doesn’t take any effort at all, that’s a pretty great thing.

I imagine the hypothetical lazy user thinking ‘I cannot figure out a way to convince my boss that I do not understand this UI...’

[TeMPOraL]

> If your user interface is so simple that understanding it doesn’t take any effort at all, that’s a pretty great thing.

Nah, that's an indicator the software is most likely not very useful. Like in code, in user interfaces too there's both essential and accidental complexity. Plenty of the latter to improve on, but reducing essential complexity === reducing features === reducing utility of the software.

> I imagine the hypothetical lazy user thinking ‘I cannot figure out a way to convince my boss that I do not understand this UI...’

I imagine said lazy user asking the boss to buy a training course. If that software is so important for the company, a training course is both useful and cheaper than hiring someone who maybe can learn the software themselves in place of said lazy user. Training courses tend to provide ample opportunity to slack off too, so that's a double win for the lazy user :).

(That said, from personal observations of my wife's and mine, people seem to be split on that somewhat halfway - one half will jump at the opportunity to learn something new and progress at their workplace or in their career, the other half will roll their eyes and ask "why should I bother"? That latter group responds to "because it's that or your job" argument, though.