[jimmychangas]

I guess the point is you just can't defeat life. Just like in the Rocky movies, life will hit you eventually. It's easy to forget that while we are young and dreaming of being the next billionaire, but it's better to be prepared. You can be a Stoic and still achieve things, as long as you accept that you are not entitled to any achievements.

[24gttghh]

>You can be a Stoic and still achieve things

I feel this proves the point: Marcus Aurelius was Emperor of Rome. That's an accomplishment, surely :)

[sbmassey]

Well he did have the advantage of birth and education.