[Gibbon1]

Have not used rust but I'm assuming it's because when you're down a rat hole rust stops you cold at every turn. You need to back up and rethink what you're trying to do. But when you don't have a good handle on what rust is complaining about you can't see that.

[atoav]

The books are incredibly well written. When people are “stopped cold at every turn” they are usually programmers who come to Rust with a metric ton of existing assumptions how to solve certain problems, without really thinking about the concepts of the language itself.

When a C++ programmer starts with python they will write incedibly “unpythonic” code, when they do the same thing in Rust, it just won’t compile.

IMO Rust is very straightforward and the std library is incredibly good. But you have to really understand certain core concepts and what they mean in terms of structuring your code.

Just like that C++ programmer needed to learn what is ideomatic python looks like and why it makes a lot more sense to write python that way, you need to find the rust way of things. But this is the same for every progtamming language out there..

[noir_lord]

I agree entirely.

One of the reasons why when I learn a new language I deliberately research the idiomatic way to write that language, it saves a bunch of trying to hammer a square peg into a round hole time.

Also some languages purely because of the domain they are in can do things in ways that others can't (trivially) do so if you treat each language as "foo" with different syntax you end up hobbling yourself to the lowest common denominator of "foo"'s features across every language you use.

[Gibbon1]

You've restated the point I was trying to make much better than I did.