[donaldknuth123]

1. The data you posted is 20 years old.

2. The data is talking about 5 year survival rates and not actual survival. The US Healthcare system is great at keeping people alive who should have stopped treatment long ago.

3. The US is behind on every other major health indicator, Infant Mortality, Life Expectancy, Cardiovascular Disease, Obesity etc. Cancer isn't the only expensive illness in the US.

This thread is overrun with Astroturfers.

[chimeracoder]

> 1. The data you posted is 20 years old.

It's from a study published 10 years ago. The study was repeated more recently and republished less than a year ago, reaffirming the original results.

> 2. The data is talking about 5 year survival rates and not actual survival. The US Healthcare system is great at keeping people alive who should have stopped treatment long ago.

There is no such thing as "actual survival". 5-year survival rates are the global standard for cancer epidemiology.

> 3. The US is behind on every other major health indicator, Infant Mortality, Life Expectancy, Cardiovascular Disease, Obesity etc. Cancer isn't the only expensive illness in the US.

This thread is about cancer, in response to an article posted about cancer.

> This thread is overrun with Astroturfers.

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> Please don't impute astroturfing or shillage. That degrades discussion and is usually mistaken. If you're worried about it, email us and we'll look at the data.

[tzs]

Aren't those 5 year survival rates from time of diagnosis?

If so, it is possible for two countries that have the same survival rate measured from actual onset of the cancer to have a different 5 year survival rate.

[ams6110]

I think it's always from time of diagnosis. Determining the "actual onset" of cancer would be little more than a guessing game.