[mmjaa]

They really didn't mind the Vespa, but now they really love the Unu - pretty much everyone who notices its an electric moped wants to know more, take it for a ride, and comes away impressed.

Its definitely the case that the torque and power aren't there - yet - but its also true that you can feel the machine wants to do more when the soft-limits kick in.

[Symbiote]

At least in Denmark, I really hate the petrol mopeds.

For some reason I don't understand, they're allowed to use most bike paths. That means they overtake the bicycles (and I don't like being overtaken with little clearance by larger, heavier vehicles) and leave a trail of fumes all along the cycle path. They're naturally going to be first in line at the traffic lights, spewing more fumes for the cyclists behind them.

On my commute, I'll change my route if there's a moped ahead.

(Cars are bad too, but they're not in my face, and seem to have much better emissions controls.)

[rcMgD2BwE72F]

At least in Paris, I'm being slowly killed by petrol mopeds.

Literally: https://www.airparif.asso.fr/actualite/detail/id/255

[seanmcdirmid]

Electric mopeds/bikes aren’t that great either, at least for pedestrians. I’ve almost been creamed a few times by one silently coming up in me in Beijing. They should at least hum or something. And they definitely shouldn’t be on the side walk doing 30km/h.

[rapind]

They shouldn't be on the sidewalk period... Neither should bikes.

[seanmcdirmid]

But this is China we are talking about so....