[citilife]

_Without insurance_ you can see a doctor in the U.S. for relatively cheap. I'm talking, $100 for a clinic visit. I've done it plenty of times for less.

The healthcare in the U.S. seems nuts because you are _billed_ for hundreds of dollars, but that's because they have to subsidize medicare patients AND insurance companies have negotiated rates based on percentages. So, they may only pay 40% of what is billed, but you are shown much more.

It's a scam everyone is involved in, which is why we need open pricing and open "how much insurance actually paid".

[cbhl]

Without insurance, a 15-minute consult in Canada is, like, $40 CAD. That's like $20 USD. Factor of 5x or 10x savings.