[pslam]

You win at right wing talking-points bingo.

The whole point of the EU is that Europe is better when it's together. There were multiple wars, involving the death of many millions, and that's just the last hundred years.

Independence is just dressed up nationalism, and all the ugly facets it is made of.

[dingaling]

> There were multiple wars, involving the death of many millions, and that's just the last hundred years.

Of which the EU has existed for just 27 years.

For the 70 years of its existence NATO has been a strong bond and influence, with the exception of the Turkish invasion of Cyprus it has prevented violent conflict between its members. And it didn't require integration of forces; it published standards for commonality and each member nation determined the nature of its own implementation and declared its contribution to collective defence.

[isostatic]

The road to the EU began in 1951, a mere 6 years after ww2 ended. Integration has increased more and more since then.

[nec4b]

Pax Americana (NATO) is what is keeping Europe peaceful at the moment and not the EU. Europe had long periods of peace as well long periods of wars throughout its history.

[Mirioron]

>Independence is just dressed up nationalism, and all the ugly facets it is made of.

I'm not sure if this is your intention, but this one line screams authoritarianism to me.

[pjc50]

> Independence is just dressed up nationalism, and all the ugly facets it is made of.

This really needs to be phrased better, because it's the argument for technocratic global soft dictatorship.