[bobl]

It is significantly harder to attain a high quality of life at decent cost in Stockholm these days. Especially since the housing market is high, but stalling, and there is a recession looming. Sweden pushing itself as a good home for startups seem to largely correlate with becoming a worse place to live in, and therefor to a large extent be posturing. There have also been more obviously successful startups in the past then there are now. Moving to Stockholm could still be the right move for some people, but I would advice looking at the situation carefully beforehand.

[renholder]

>Sweden pushing itself as a good home for startups seem to largely correlate with becoming a worse place to live in, and therefor to a large extent be posturing.

This isn't, implicitly, true. For Stockholm, sure. What about a city like Växjö? Or Motala? There are very decent areas to live in Sweden, close to booming tech start-ups, and aren't suffering the same plights that the capital is seeing.

Admittedly, the points-system is a bit of a pain-in-the-ass and they seemed to have a plan for it, when it first started, for newcomers to the country; however, that plan doesn't work-out so well in the terms of today.

To point: Sweden, in general, doesn't suffer from all of the plights seen in Stockholm. If Stockholm is your goto, then by all means, you should be aware of them; but a larger portion of Sweden doesn't see the same problems (yet).

[dmitriid]

> For Stockholm, sure. What about a city like Växjö? Or Motala? There are very decent areas to live in Sweden, close to booming tech start-ups, and aren't suffering the same plights that the capital is seeing.

Yeah... Motala is really relevant in the context of conversation about "Best Startups to Work for in Stockholm" (~3 hours by car).

[renholder]

>...is really relevant in the context of conversation about "Best Startups to Work for in Stockholm" (~3 hours by car).

The OP that I replied to mentioned Sweden, as a whole, which is not limited to just Stockholm, yeah?

[dmitriid]

If we take Sweden as a whole, there are very few opportunities outside the three big cities, Stockholm, Malmö, and Göteborg (Gothenburg).

Just saying that it’s nice in the small places like Motala can’t make businesses and people move there, unfortunately.

Motala is really nice though :)

[bobl]

Most of these places would also just have a hard time "scaling" if they did managed to get people or business there. One successful or a couple of smaller startups might need at least a hundred people a year. So there really needs to be something special going on for that to work out.

[bobl]

Those places are far more average with for example small city centers and limited transportation. As such there are far more competition, and therefor places to consider, before selecting one of those options. Especially since you might end up living outside one of those cities. Smaller isn't necessarily easier either. Most of Sweden has a rental shortage and a pricey housing market. It is a systematic issue of abandoning the rental market in favor of 100+ year mortgages.

But if anyone know of a city in Sweden with accessible good living conditions and decent opportunities I would of course be happy to hear about it.