[harrumph]

That makes as much sense as calling the earth’s tidal ebb and flow “crony gravitation”. The present situation is the rule, not the exception. And if morality is your concern, then it’s the fundamental operation of capitalism you have a problem with. As long as workers at the point of production are coerced to give up a majority of the value they create to nonworking stockholders, we have a system built upon a ripoff that propogates ripoffs — and that system is correctly called capitalism.

[mikeq101101]

Oof, argumenting by labor theory of value in 2019. Try reading more than one book.

[harrumph]

>Oof, argumenting by labor theory of value in 2019. Try reading more than one book.

I own a company. Thanks to my direct experience, I know very well where value comes from: labor alone.

Enjoy the purple sky (and the glib, wrong, one-liners) on your planet.

[mikeq101101]

>I own a company. Thanks to my direct experience, I know very well where value comes from: labor alone.

If that is actually true, you also know that: 1) You had to invest in the company, unlike the employees. 2) You carry far more risk than the employees. 3) Your employees get their money immediately and they are sure to get the money, while you have to wait for profit, and there might not be any.

But you know that, there's no point discussing labor theory of value in 2019, it has been debunked many times. We can discuss the flat earth theory next if this is the standard.

[harrumph]

>You had to invest in the company, unlike the employees.

We all had to. We all are owners.

> ou carry far more risk than the employees.

False - an stems from the foundational presumption you made stemming from your ideological indoctrination.

>Your employees get their money immediately and they are sure to get the money, while you have to wait for profit, and there might not be any.

Also false. Not only have you reversed how payroll actually works in any enterprise, failure also stems from the presumption you made owing to your ideological indoctrination.

> there's no point discussing labor theory of value in 2019, it has been debunked many times.

Also false, also stemming from your ideological indoctrination.

See, presumptions and scoffing might work on your planet. They don't work on this one.

Let me know if you need anything else cleared up about how businesses are run.

[mikeq101101]

Well, you should have said "we own a company", not "I own a company", if you're running a co-op.

How have I reversed how payroll works?

[harrumph]

No, I own the company. I’ll let you know what’s correct and what isn’t about the enterprise, thanks.

When one day you graduate to running a business, please run payroll in the way you describe. Your error will be very plain then.

You’re welcome!