[tarcyanm]

The way I heard it is that the U.S. could not domestically provide an off the shelf end-to-end 5G solution. In addition, Huawei had at some point declined to install NSA backdoors. This was essentially the backdrop that led to Huawei being tarred and feathered.

[doktrin]

> The way I heard it

> In addition, Huawei had at some point declined to install NSA backdoors

I think a statement like this needs some corroboration beyond word of mouth

[bildung]

Not GP, but I, too find it suspicious that e.g. Cisco, I direct competitor to Huawei, gets caught with yet another new backdoor almost monthly[1], and apparently the US administration has no qualms with buying Cisco hardware or with Cisco continuing to sell unsecure hardware worldwide.

[1] https://www.tomshardware.com/news/cisco-backdoor-hardcoded-a...

[culturestate]

I suspect the U.S. government prefers "these guys might suck, but at least they're our guys" as a threat model when the alternative is essentially a state-owned enterprise taking orders from one of America's largest geopolitical foes.

[bildung]

Huawei is in an employee-owned company, no state involved.

[culturestate]

I know Huawei isn't literally a SOE (as far we can tell, anyway) but it has long-standing ties to the PLA, and the stark reality of modern-day China is that every large corporation in the country is effectively subservient to the CCP.

[unmole]

In the words of British Telecom's Chief Architect, "There is only one true 5G supplier right now and that is Huawei -- the others need to catch up."

https://www.lightreading.com/mobile/5g/bts-mcrae-huawei-is-t...

[doktrin]

I don't see what that has to do with the alleged NSA backdoors.

[unmole]

NSA backdoors in Huawei gear?! Now this is something new...

[doktrin]

If you take a look at the GP's statement, it included an alleged refusal by Huawei to install NSA backdoors. That's the part of the statement I'd like to see further qualified, because I think it deserves it.

[amaccuish]

> I think a statement like this needs some corroboration beyond word of mouth

I'd like to see that same standard applied to the initial allegations against Huawei. Still no proof that they've done anything wrong.

[roca]

The question is not whether they've done anything wrong yet. The question is what they will do if Xi Jinping orders them to deploy a backdoor.

[everdrive]

It is however, a mindless equivocation.