[ComSubVie]

My 10 year old MBP17 still works, but it's good that finally there will be a replacement option available. Hopefully it will have upgradeable parts again (at least RAM and disk).

So please start making bigger MBPs and smaller iPhones!

[martin_a]

> Hopefully it will have upgradeable parts again (at least RAM and disk).

Pretty sure that won't happen. Don't know why, but somebody in control thinks that professional users prefer the slimmest available device over being able to put in a bigger SSD or more RAM when they need to. Better start looking for something else, because the new MBPs are no "replacements" to the one you have.

[itsdrewmiller]

I prefer a slimmer laptop to replaceable parts, and consider myself a professional user. I have to guess there is more money overall in serving my piece of the market than the one that wants to buy a machine for a lower price and then not buy a new one for longer since they can just upgrade parts of it.

Even so, I still sometimes disagree with priorities around thinness - I would have preferred a thicker 2016 model with a legal max battery that supported 32gb of ram. Possible they found out too late in the process that 32gb lpddr was not going to be ready though?

[jbverschoor]

Just max it out, and it'll last at 5-10 years

[_ph_]

"Just maxing it out" would work if Apple didn't charge outrageous prices for memory/storage upgrades. I would be quite willing to order any device in the maximum needed configuration for its life time and even pay a modest premium for that, but the prices Apple asks for upgrades are a multiple of market prices.

[ksec]

Pretty much all the LogicBoard Chips soldering are done though machines, I just don't understand why Apple had to charge the insane amount of money for those parts other than "Because They Can". I could understand they want to maintain margins etc, but it was so much higher than their usual margin it is as if they don't want you to do it.

[Corrado]

Same here. My wife is still using my old MBP 17" daily. I replaced the HD with an SSD and maxed out the RAM several years ago and it still does everything she needs, and then some. And the older I get the more monitor I need. I have a nice big monitor at home but when I travel, or just work from a coffee shop, it's nice to have more screen real estate.

[ComSubVie]

Same here, upgraded RAM and inserted an Hybrid Disk. It currently runs High Sierra (with the dosdude1 patcher, haven't been able to install Mojave). I don't understand why it isn't officially supported anymore, it still works flawlessly.