[cyborgx7]

Video, all told, isn't that old. We had a society before capturing video. We will have a society after video is trustworthy. The brief window of human history of trustable video is coming to an end. We will get used to it, and be fine.

[sametmax]

The problem is that there will be a window were people will trust video while it is not trustable and it will be abused.

[feanaro]

Yes, but this will happen, regardless of legislation. The only thing legislation is able to achieve in this space is restrict the technology to actors that are not malicious to begin with.

[sametmax]

Define malicious, because the people in power will surely have another definition.

[feanaro]

Yes, this is actually a part of my point. There's no point in legislating it because all it will do is prevent an arbitrary class of people from using it, leaving it only in the hands of people who aren't interested in complying with legislation to begin with.

In other words, it will happen so the best thing we can do is acknowledge this and prepare for it.

[darkpuma]

Face swap software is only one form of video editing software, and video editing software has been used to deceive people from the moment it was first created. You can easily use adobe aftereffects or blender to deceive people.

Check out the "CaptainDisillusion" channel on youtube, it's full of examples of people deceiving others using video editing software. To my knowledge none of the examples he's talked about have used face swapping.

[macspoofing]

Meh. We live in a world where text and images are completely untrustworthy. Why is video such a big deal?

[hanniabu]

Because while use of photoshop is widely known, many are still unaware that video can be edited like this and look so real.

[jesseb]

There was a point when Photoshop wasn't well known, and people fell for all sorts of manipulated images all the time. Now, years later, it's common knowledge that photos shouldn't be trusted as evidence. These things are all cyclical.

[macspoofing]

Once "deep-fakes" become mainstream - how long would it take for the public to become aware of them? A week? A month? Any fake video of consequences will be immediately ripped apart by mainstream and social media. Why would 'deep-fakes' be any worse than what is being done with CG today?

I do believe that some people will fall for them, but the damage won't be any worse than when people fall for shopped images and phishing emails. It's just something we have to deal with.

[A2017U1]

The real issue is a large number of people suddenly distrusting real video evidence rather than those few who were already susceptible being led astray.

[macspoofing]

Again, why would video be blindly trusted today anyway? You can fake videos through creative cutting and CG.

[grawprog]

So...these people have never seen a movie then?

I mean they can accept just about any kind of special effect in a movie as being possible, but editing videos to swap faces is a huge stretch?

[macspoofing]

Good point. I strongly suspect the worry about deep-fake videos is overstated. Yes some people will fall for them, just as some people fall for photo-shopped images and Nigerian email scams but that's just par for course - we'll have to deal with that. Also, it isn't like videos can't be faked today with out-of-context edits, CG, and audio manipulation (e.g. dubbing).