[LilBytes]

I'd suggest the BBC are more balanced than most, so I'd suggest your comment here is close to being cut out false equivalency with a side of whataboutism as you can have on a topic that's talking about violence at Trump rallies specifically.

This article is about mindless violence towards the media that's displayed and documented at Trumps rallys. It's not about antifa.

I don't know what media outlet is to Antifa, that is Fox News to the Right. But I'd welcome a discussion on what we can do to encourage a more fair and balanced media and what we do to hold drunken louts like the gentleman in the article for abhorrent violence.

[chrisco255]

Have you seen how the media treated the MAGA kid? They painted a false narrative and all of Hollywood and Twitter joined in unison to dox and character assassinate a high school kid who literally just stood there as he was getting harassed, called all sorts of names and having a drum shoved in his face.

But God forbid the kid smirk to ease the tension. What do we do to hold media accountable for painting false narratives and stoking the fires of tension, intentionally for hits and ratings?

[IntelMiner]

There's an argument to be made that the "kid" in question did what he did completely knowingly. Nobody would knowingly wear a MAGA hat into a space like that unless they knew they wanted to cause trouble

[chrisco255]

Into the Lincoln Memorial? They have every right to protest in D.C. along with every other group that's ever done it for the past 200 years.

[sarcasmOrTears]

You should really check out what happened since you're clearly still on the false narrative.

[IntelMiner]

So saying the kid "knowingly wore a controversial hat" is a false narrative?

Was he forced to wear the hat to the event?

Was there someone behind him at gunpoint forcing him to wear the hat?

[cotelletta]

Strange times when the woke left is arguing that someone deserved it because of what they were wearing...

The Covington case was naked woke hysteria, there is no way around it. Particularly because even after the details came out, people were still doubling down and making excuses for everyone else there.

The hat is the official merch of your current sitting president. The way it's treated as an overt symbol of hate is insane, and only makes stunts like "it's ok to be white" all the more poignant. Clearly it's not ok in the eyes of some, and vice versa, having colored skin can excuse harassment and racism.

[pjc50]

> The hat is the official merch of your current sitting president. The way it's treated as an overt symbol of hate is insane

Why? Hatred (as in the speech the cameraman was filming) is the overt policy of the President.

The emperor isn't naked, he just has a really bad hat - but we have to point out what we see, no matter how many people are wanting to intimidate us into not seeing it.

[pjc50]

Indeed. They'd gone to protest outside an abortion clinic, ie harass vulnerable women. They weren't expecting the counterprotestors they got.

A good summary of this faux concern: https://www.salon.com/2019/01/22/defenders-of-the-maga-hat-y...

[chrisco255]

This article is complete partisan spin that spills a lot of ink mentioning completely orthogonal criticisms of people and events entirely unrelated to the event that occurred at The Lincoln Memorial...not an abortion clinic.

Here's the 1.5 hour recording of the event so you don't have to sit through some selectively edited hack job:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-pFMZaw5f0

[culot]

This is an accurate and concise summary of the incident:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSkpPaiUF8s

Basically: the kid was entirely blameless, preyed upon by a racist native activist specifically because he was wearing a MAGA hat.

[yesenadam]

Well, something that would improve HN for me is if you changed your username to something less disturbing to read. If everyone had names like that, the site would be ridiculous and unusable. I don't know what you were thinking. I'm not against swearing, in movies or real life, but there is a limit, and you seem to have crossed it there, totally unnecessarily. Apologies if the name is highly significant to you, but it isn't to anyone else, it's just something I'd rather not read. Thanks.

[FuckOffNeemo]

You were nothing less than polite in your remarks. I appreciate your (edit:) candour, you have absolutely nothing to apologise for.

My handle is significant to me, and AFAIK there's no way to change your handle on HN. Though being honest, even if I were given the chance, I probably wouldn't change it.

I'm unsure if there's a mechanic to block some one on HN but if it does, I'd recommend you use it in this instance. Apologies that I can't be of any further help.

[dang]

We can change usernames if people email [e-mail] and request it.

[louisswiss]

Out of interest, why is there a limit? And what is that limit?

Also, would you change your username if I requested you to do so? (Perhaps I had a bad experience in the past which makes the word “Adam“ something I‘d rather not read)

[Symbiote]

Indymedia is a news outlet popular with the left. It's a long time since I read it, but I don't think they're anything like as loose with the facts as Fox News.

http://www.indymedia.org/

[ajvs]

> This article is about mindless violence towards the media that's displayed and documented at Trumps rallys. It's not about antifa.

This is a single instance and it makes headlines. Antifa on the other hand have had dozens of large scale riots and targeted attacks but corporate media avoids painting them in a bad light. They're simply "protesters" rather than a mob.

> I don't know what media outlet is to Antifa, that is Fox News to the Right.

CNN is easily the most far-left news show. There's hundreds of videos on YouTube of the hoaxes, lies and biased news they've broadcast.

> But I'd welcome a discussion on what we can do to encourage a more fair and balanced media

There needs to be stronger anti-libel and anti-defamation laws. The lawsuits coming from the "MAGA kid" Nick Sandmann should a good barometer of whether or not the corporate media can truly be held accountable for their lies.

My guess at this point is that the media will continue to lose trust from the public because they can't ever be held accountable when they lie.

[IntelMiner]

>Antifa on the other hand have had dozens of large scale riots and targeted attacks but corporate media avoids painting them in a bad light. They're simply "protesters" rather than a mob.

[citation needed]

>CNN is easily the most far-left news show. There's hundreds of videos on YouTube of the hoaxes, lies and biased news they've broadcast.

And there's videos of the Earth being flat, climate change being a "liberal hoax" and the Sandy Hook massacre being made up

If I might quote from an (at the time) controversial Sony ad "you can't believe everything you read on the internet, that's how World War 1 got started"

>There needs to be stronger anti-libel and anti-defamation laws. The lawsuits coming from the "MAGA kid" Nick Sandmann should a good barometer of whether or not the corporate media can truly be held accountable for their lies.

America is a very litigious society, compared to the rest of the world. I'd love to see the defense for the "MAGA kid" trying to explain that wearing that hat was not a deliberate act

[pjc50]

> the corporate media can truly be held accountable for their lies.

Well, the defamation lawsuits eventually worked against Alex Jones.

[mcv]

> CNN is easily the most far-left news show.

Really? CNN has never struck me as particularly left.

[0xcde4c3db]

You're not wrong; CNN is barely even left, let alone far left. I don't think a viewpoint can seriously be called "far left" without being explicitly opposed to capitalism. The farthest-left viewpoints you're likely to see on any of the mainstream cable news channels, even as objects of incredulity, are criticisms of underregulated capitalism and advocacy for expanded welfare programs.

[DanBC]

> Antifa on the other hand have had dozens of large scale riots and targeted attacks

No, they haven't. This is untrue.