[cmurf]

This is authoritarian might makes right nonsense. It's incompatible with the UN Charter, national and individual self-determination, and the world's religions.

Before global trade, wealthy countries became wealthy through population growth. Today most every wealthy country has low or negative native birth rates, depending on immigration to shore up their economy. Japan's lost decade is an example of negative birth rates along with no immigration.

[tonyedgecombe]

Japan is interesting though because society hasn’t collapsed, people there still have a high quality of life. The main issue they seem to have is the government took on too much debt. Whether that is a problem is questionable because most of it is held by the Japanese.

[YUMad]

Most of Japan's debt is actually owned by its citizens iirc.

[tonyedgecombe]

That’s what I said.