[neveroffensive]

I believe universal justice exists. I believe you can quantify justice. I think at the end of the day you and I are both right, and both wrong. We hold utterly different perspectives on life, choice, and freedom. These may be irreconcilable. For example, I genuinely believe depression can be cured by "not being depressed".

Edit:

What if I want to live my life paycheck to paycheck? What if none of what you just described about freedom from the emotional stress of finances matters to me? What right do you have to force me to make the "right" choices and be financially responsible? Why shouldn't I be allowed to hurt myself?

[Arbalest]

With respect to your edit, for those who have limited resources: I would suggest anyone who has taken on responsibilities is unlikely to think in a matter in which anything can be ignored, and anyone who is without responsibility is probably already disconnected enough from society that they can probably get what they want many other ways. It is the former that we try to protect, the latter doesn't care to be protected anyway. In terms of managing a society, the former is a far greater priority than the latter. The former is probably also the majority.

As for your statement about differing perspectives, I would argue that I'm talking about solutions for present problems, ie the practical side, whereas you talk about what should be, which may require a very large transition period, and thus is not useful at this point in time.

[neveroffensive]

> The former is probably also the majority

I think we also would disagree on the needs of the many outweighing the needs of the few.

> for present problems, ie the practical side

I see your point here, but we can't lose sight of the big picture. Compromising in the short term, no matter how many people it might help, seems like a bad idea to me.