[pwaai]

> So something is dangerous and people are going to do it anyway so they legalize it and try to make it safer instead of criminalizing it. The US could learn from China on this one.

No there's nothing to be learned here because the US is a very different system. It consists of strong independent state level enforcement entities, it's a collection of individual states, each with an economy of the top 50 economies of the world.

While China has certainly grown like crazy, there, they have a very different system. Everything is centralized so all of the quotas, and inspections are accepted at the central state level. One which also faces challenge of obfusticating as much as possible actual numbers for various reasons: loss of face and the inability to get an accurate gauge within your own country.

So anytime you read a piece of a news out of China, realize what I mentioned above, there are no independent investigative bodies that are able to challenge each other, much like you have individual states, in China the government has final say and the entire judicial system is built to jail, execute anyone the system deems a threat.

It wouldn't be surprising to read about articles in the future about more health complications from eating these farmed pufferfish-as the world recalls, China doesn't exactly instill confidence in their healthcare system when they poison their own citizen's children with HIV.

Not saying everything about China is bad but most of it is quite below the standard of what UN defines as adequate for human rights to exist.

So there's no lesson here imho, and these type of China #1 threads from throwaway accounts we are seeing more and more recently annoys me.

HN has turned into fucking reddit.

[dear]

Just so you know - that "throwaway" account has a longer history here than your named anonymous account and has a lot of higher "karmas" than you. Just need to point out.

[ngokevin]

Any post supporting or defending China in any way is definitely an exception. I'm surprised to see any "China #1" posts anywhere. Anti-China sentiments are universal on HN and Reddit if you search any thread mentioning China.

I wouldn't say though that life is below UN standards for the average city citizen. I'd still count it a first-world country purely on lifestyle.

[pwaai]

I wouldn't say there's anti-Chinese sentiments that is unwarranted.

China is actively stealing from advanced technology holding countries. Whataboutism is a common way to justify the behavior, which further inflmmates and even conjures up the good old sinophobia.

I think that much of what you read as anti-Chinese content is simply anything that describes a future without China as a hegemony.

China faces a huge risk of fragmenting like the USSR did, from which it would never fully recover.

but given the iron grip of the government and the military it is far more likely we will see China slip into a authoritarian state much like Putin's Russia or North Korea.

I think instead a far more likely candidate that could possibly challenge the US hegemony is a sort of EURO-ASIA partnership, where European countries would compete for highly educated workforces. Culture might be a barrier, but I feel that Japanese and Koreans work well with Europeans.

So it would be a China exclusive economic coalition that would pose a challenge to the US, if they do not move away from their current trajectory.

Russia will 100% fragment in the next 5 years, as they are literally on their last reserves and China is also not far off because their debt is staggering, not unlike the Japanese real estate bubble crisis.

Again my prediction is the US hegemony is unlikely to be challenged by a sole country superpower, but rather economically and technological coalition of outside countries that can pose a challenge (basically US vs the rest of the world which is even unlikely....as the US has port calls all over the world).

If China is to replace US, it needs to start building those nuclear carriers fast and well, something which is an impossibility at this current rate.

[ngokevin]

Those thoughts are valid, but that's not what i see online. See Reddit now about Tencent's investment. That's the sort of thing. Western media is more apt to upvoting and exposing anti-China stuff whenever it happens, no matter how small (e.g., videos of Chinese tourists misbehaving), (although many may be warranted), leading more and more to sinophobia in an unhealthy manner.

Many people I talk to or read call China's people brainwashed or oblivious. People are more apt to post anecdotes about Chinese people they know that confirms these beliefs, and those anecdotes are readily upvoted because it confirms other people's beliefs, further pushing it more.

It's almost propaganda in a way. Not explicitly released by a government, but the dark hand of the media and influence. I don't think western people know much about what it's like within China or its people. Imagine if Chinese people did not know much about the US, and the government started encouraging or posting about slavery, the Boston massacre, Guantanamo Bay, war in the middle east, homeless situations, etc.

I might be off, but I think people have swung too far in the other direction, that some balance needs to be brought, else there's gonna be another Red Scare and I see prejudice is very strong against the Chinese these days although people won't admit that.