[entity345]

The US Senate and the Presidential election processes are certainly not things to try to copy...

They can both lead to anti-democratic results. In fact the Presidential election process was originally designed purposely to avoid giving the people a direct and full say.

That being said, the EU already has something similar... the member countries represented equally by their governments.

[explainplease]

Raw democracy can also lead to undesirable results. It's not true that whatever 51% of the population wants is right or good. Do you disagree?

> They can both lead to anti-democratic results. In fact the Presidential election process was originally designed purposely to avoid giving the people a direct and full say.

That is one way to characterize it. Another way is that the process was designed hundreds of years ago, before electronic communication, air travel, etc. It was not possible for every citizen to see and hear the presidential candidates before an election. So, like the rest of the representative government, citizens delegated their votes to delegates, who would gather in-person, see and hear the candidates, and select one.

So do you really think it's truthful to claim that the purpose of the presidential election process was to avoid giving citizens a full say?

I feel like you're being intellectually dishonest in this thread.

[AnimalMuppet]

You asked for a better alternative to democracy. explainplease supplied one. You complain because it's anti-democratic. That seems somewhat unfair.