[tossaccount123]

US actually produces the most oil of any country now. I'd like to see someone do the math and see if it would be cheaper to leave the middle east and save money on wars and just subsidize our own oil production to make up the difference for any price increase consumers might see. Of course that won't happen because war is a industry now

What's also amazing to me is seeing this culture defended by the left, when if most muslims were given power in Europe they would strip away most rights for women and homosexuals that the left also fought for

[dang]

It looks like you've been using HN primarily for ideological battle. That's against both the rules and spirit of this site, and we ban accounts that do it, so would you please stop doing it?

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

[mrguyorama]

>What's also amazing to me is seeing this culture defended by the left

You're going to need a citation for that. Projecting such a large claim against such a large heterogeneous blob of people with absolutely zero evidence to back it up should not be acceptable on HN

[fzeroracer]

It's amusing and somewhat annoying to see people attempt to categorize all Muslims as wanting to destroy the rights of women in the US while the rights of women in the US are under very real siege by Christian fundamentalists tearing apart bits and pieces for things like reproductive rights.

The left isn't afraid of Muslims in the US because not only are they usually more progressive than their fundamentalist counterparts but also because they're a minority population with very little political power.

It's a rather disengenous argument. I see very little fear or animosity pointed towards the groups that are actively in power and trying to tear things down versus the scapegoat being blamed for the actions of another country.

[LifeLiverTransp]

They do that for example, by disolving a claim with intelectual dishonesty, expecting effort of proof for a group that shows - beside cheap words - near zero effort to back away from bad actors and bad principles/traditions.

Like if I where to claim that not all facism is racistic, because facism was historically a very heterogenous blob of people with absolutly zero evidence to back up that they all where as racistic as the nazis. Then i would be wrong.

To some ideologies, there is no right to repair, because the basic concept subverts human rights and democracy.

[deogeo]

> if it would be cheaper to leave the middle east and save money on wars

Cheaper for the US as a whole perhaps (even probably), but the military-industrial complex would make less money.

[LifeLiverTransp]

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[protonfish]

I like to think both parties are extreme authoritarian, just different flavors - paternal vs. maternal. Dominance and submission are two sides of the same dysfunctional coin.

[dang]

Please don't use HN for ideological battle.

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