[phkahler]

>> What is the effect of males selecting for docile females on future sons and daughters? Or do you believe that males aren't discriminating?

What makes you think males get to select a mate? And who deliberately goes for a docile female?

[krapp]

>What makes you think males get to select a mate

We're not talking about insects, or birds, we're talking about human beings. Humans don't select mates, we select partners with whom we may or may not mate, and the process of selection is social, mutual and complex.

[phkahler]

>> We're not talking about insects, or birds, we're talking about human beings.

Well aren't we special then.

We're talking about evolution, so the part of "we select partners with whom we may or may not mate" where people don't mate is not even relevant. In fact, if there is a genetic component to not mating, it is selected against in evolutionary terms.

I thought we were talking about what people are attracted to (i.e. make one feel like mating), not who they like to hang out with - if you find both of those characteristics in one person that's great and I think we all strive for that. But don't kid yourself that humans don't have primitive instinctual drives governed by biology and evolution.