[gerbilly]

> I still consider it a weakness of UNIX that "logout" doesn't really mean "logout"

Ok, but UNIX and it's behaviour has evolved over forty years, and users have a certain set of expectations about it.

Also, it should be noted, systems like UNIX are cultural artifacts. The way they are is the result of forty years of back and forth debate and negotiation and eventually compromise.

I can't speak for all of them, but I think that people that are bothered by systemd are upset that all of history has been brushed aside to make place for the preferences of just a few influential developers.

Whether a feature like logout is "logical" or not, is besides the point. Operating system design isn't just about logic, it's about serving users.

[pas]

Yes, indeed, it's not about logic, as those same users cheer Linux instead of sticking with BSD, and then complain about not being UNIX enough.

[toomim]

That was the point of OP's article. That it's hard to change.