[ilaksh]

Well that's interesting but its a little bit different from what I am talking about because I personally don't question most of the supposed American ideals (at least as I see them). Really I'm talking about actions rather than ideals.

[toufiqbarhamov]

Is there anything more “bad guy” than espousing high ideals which run contrary to centuries of actions? Still at some point you’d hope that people notice the disconnect and feel disturbed.

“Hans... are we the baddies?”

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hn1VxaMEjRU