[mistrial9]

.. those who do not learn history, are doomed to repeat <the same ask without results>

Seriously, how much "positive" spin can be tolerated at this point? We are in a tsunami of consumer-product waste.. some of it with notable components.. the markets are failing to balance the industrial life cycles.. This is exactly part of a giant fail by humans in geologic time, to adapt to sustainable patterns.

"It remains to be seen if we have poisoned the nest"