[madeofpalk]

I think the reality is, no matter how awesome and impressive these tools are, they just don't seem to have a fit in the market.

Prefacing this with the fact I don't know all that much about the product, only a quick glance

For a big team of developers, building a big website with complicated interactions or requirements, a tool like this isn't going to meet all the requirements the developers have

If you're building something simpler, then you're probably better served by something like Webflow or Squarespace.

[muhneesh]

At a high level, that makes some sense - these tools might not be the most practical way to get from point A -> point B today for a typical web or mobile app.

In my head, I'm wondering if they are just way too early? Going from design -> code -> UI is, in theory, less efficient than just going from design -> UI, in a programmable, customizable, scalable way.

[samanator]

Skuid, which is a page builder for Salesforce (now branching out to more platforms) is doing very well. At the company I work at we are going to switch away from it due to the limitations you insinuated, but there's definitely a fit for it in the Salesforce world.