[zimpenfish]

> I disagree about steam being slow and clunky.

It can seem to be - on my Windows 10 box, a Steam update can take half an hour or more (on the Mac, it'll never be more than a couple of minutes.)

Often it'll get stuck downloading updates to games which means you can't play them until it unsticks.

I appreciate that these are almost certainly Windows 10 issues (since a lot of other stuff is similarly afflicted) but most people will blame Steam.

[jamesgeck0]

> on my Windows 10 box, a Steam update can take half an hour or more

This hasn't been my experience at all. On my Windows 10 box with an aging third gen i5, a 50Mbps connection, and an SSD, Steam client updates rarely take more than a minute or two.

[zimpenfish]

Mine is an AMD <mumblenumbers> with a 1Gbps connection and no SSD. But when Windows 10 comes back after an update, the machine will be unusable for at least an hour whilst it does <something>. Steam updates take forever. Installing Postgres the other day took about half an hour, of which at least 20 minutes was installing VC++ redistributables.

The problem with Windows 10 seems to be that it's wildly inconsistent and susceptible to the tiniest variations.