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by temp231239 2709 days ago
I differ with you. Assuming, for sake of argument, data is not being scraped for nefarious purpose today then the time when it will be is not too far away. There are no protections in place as proved by multiple data leeks stories. There are no settings provided by tech companies that let use use there services in total anonymous way or without being a research subject. Do you think gmail will ever implement end-to-end encrypted email service ever?

We need such articles to remind people of what they are getting them-self into and encourage communities to build alternative solutions. Remember those few privacy settings provided by tech companies are result of such stories.

Data that was collected before on an average citizen is puny as compared to what they collect now.

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> There are no protections in place as proved by multiple data leeks stories.

Are you referring to data breaches? Not sure what protections you think will prevent them.

> There are no settings provided by tech companies that let use use there services in total anonymous way.

Again, these aren't essential services that you have to use. You can use Google via Duck Duck Go if you like.

You can't use Facebook but you can use What's App if you want end to end encryption.

> Do you think gmail will ever implement end-to-end encrypted email service ever?

I believe they already provide a browser plugin for pgp encryption.

Full end to end encryption would probably require changes to existing email protocols.

> We need such articles to remind people of what they are getting them-self into.

This is a valid point, however the hyperbolic tone of these articles is off putting to me.

I think these companies are handling data in a responsible way.

A more rational conversation around the real risks of these data collection practices, the value of the data,and the exchange of this data for services would be more enlightening, IMO.

Too often these articles and the comments degenerate into X is bad and this bad without any nuance.

Also, as I have stated, it is very easy to not use these services.

> encourage communities to build alternative solutions

I'm all for this. What I am not in favor is asking the government to force these private companies to make these.

> Data that was collected before on an average citizen is puny as compared to what they collect now.

I worked at Credit Card companies a long time ago, and I wouldn't call the data they collected on people puny. In many cases these companies had access to every purchase a person made, every place they lived, their income, etc.

To me that is very sensitive information.

Again, I would like a rational conversation around how is the information that is being collective sensitive.

That might actually be more useful to people.