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by mpolichette 2705 days ago
Put it in ski boots... done and done, I’d buy it right away
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Mountain walking/climbing boots as well - adjusting laces in bad weather if you have gaiters, over-trousers and crampons on can be a nightmare.

Mind you they'd have to have a reliable fall-back so they still work and are adjustable if (when) the power fails.

Edit: I was actually thinking last weekend when I think I over tightened my laces on my boots and my feet got quite sore that strain gauges in boots/laces might be a good thing!

Replace the laces with 2-4mm bungee cord and you are set for life.

That was a pretty common trick for combat boots before the laced + side zipper boots became more popular.

What's the steepest decline you've walked with that setup? Did your toes touch the end of your boot?
Pretty steep, including wall climbing but those were full height boots not the ankle height popular with most hikers.

You don't tie as you would normal laces you create a knot on one end and loop it through all the lace loops then you simply pull and loop it around the shaft and the colar and tuck it in it was secure enough to even run in (as much as can one run with a full kit and a PRC-77 they had us chugging along during training) and traverse any terrain I had too.

I don't know how would if fare in very cold (as in sub zero) weather but then I had normal laces snap on me while trekking in Peru and Iceland as well.

BTW don't forget that while a bungee cord can stretch pretty well the shorter it is the more stiff it is so all of the bends in the loop essentially create a lot of short individual links that don't stretch as easily as the entire length of the cord unwound, you also need to overcome the friction between the cord and the tongue of the boot which makes this setup pretty darn secure but easy enough to pop on and off if your curl your foot and ankle and ease it in or out.

I'm going to try this with mountaineering boots. Thanks!
Ski boots are purposefully stiffer, which is presumably the reason they don't use laces like snowboard boots. Ski boots are less comfortable, but I thought one advantage is that they can already be set to a desired tightness very easily? What are you looking for?
Also a dream for me. The lacing system in these sneakers sounds similar to a snowboard boot's Boa system so I could imagine this tech quickly applied to those but a ski boot seems much more difficult.
I was just going to say, I've always had a good experience with Boa systems on snowboarding boots, even though people claim they break regularly. Surprised they didn't get adopted by the sneaker industry. I'm guessing it's either too expensive, or too bulky for them, until now at least.

Edit: Actually, turns out they have been already used in sports shoes, go figure! The aesthetics don't quite seem exquisite, but the functionality seems to be all there.

They are pretty common on golf shoes now
These (fairly specialized) ski boots have a boa lace system as part of their closure system, which uses a central dial to tighten a continuous metal lace. It's not automated, but it's close.

For what it's worth, though, I didn't find them that much faster to put on than normal three-buckle boots.

https://www.scarpa.net/en/f1.html

"done and done" ?