[superobserver]

I didn't justify the NSA nor 'dismiss', I said everyone does it, so singling them out in particular is dishonest.

Furthermore, it is their mandate to do what they do; ask yourself: which agencies exist that have attempted to extend beyond the scope of theirs?

This is a serious concern, esp. in diplomatic relations.

[Nasrudith]

Well they were responsible for Tor that makes it germane - that was what I met by being in their domain. It is always perfectly fair to throw shade on them for their project based on their past actions.

The NSA really shouldn't be bringing up their mandate given how they have persistently undermined their own nation's security for the sake of snooping. And it is one of the most economically dependent upon it no less and needs the advanced economy to power its supremacy. It is so stupid one needs to invent elaborate and absurd fantasies to remotely justify it.

It still stinks of whataboutism to complain of dishonesty - not refuting the truth or justifying it as right but deflecting it and crying foul. Everyone is doing it is a poor excuse for juvenile delinquency and a worse one for agencies of world powers.