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by ivanzhao 2712 days ago
Notion's founder here. Thank you for the kind words - we are honored :-)

To be honest, nothing we are doing is that new. Most of the ideas came from the 70s-80s (Alan Kay, Doug Engelbart, Ted Nelson...) We are just applying a fresh coat of paint.

Of course, there's still a lot more to be done to fully realize these pioneers' dreams of computing as a medium for everyone – not just programmers like us. If you are interested to learn more or work with us, feel free to message me directly at ivan at makenotion.com, or link below. We are happy to host you for lunch: https://www.notion.so/notion/Join-Us-e7aeb157238a4603a2964b2...

Have a good one! Ivan

7 comments

I see a lot of potential for Notion and really enjoy the service, but currently it still feels a little rough. Some thoughts:

- while the browser-based webapp is mostly fine, the mobile apps feel really subpar and somewhat out of place on iPad and iPhone alike: Sluggish, slow animations, inconsistent keyboard behavior, unnecessarily large fullscreen modals on iPad - it's very noticeable that it isn't a native app. It feels like a second class citizen. I'd like to make Notion a central part of my daily, essential tools - similarly to an app like Things. Unfortunately the difference in user experience is night and day. Please consider developing native apps.

- this is a very minor issue, but since I often use Notion as a note taking tool the rigid separation of paragraphs into multiple isolated content blocks is rather annoying. It leads to side effects like "Select all" on iOS actually not select all, but just the current block/paragraph. I think text, regardless of the number of paragraphs or format, should be one single block until it's actually interrupted by inline data structures like tables or galleries.

Other than that I love the idea of your service, which can turn a blank canvas into a simple text document or a fully featured Airtable-like application, or anything inbetween.

I also have similar issues with the text processing.

I like the model they use that everything is a block - you get predictable behaviour, but I do think the normal shortcut for select all should select a page, and that I should be able to select text from multiple paragraphs using keyboard commands (if you do ctrl+shift+arrow you get stuck at the edge of a block).

Agreed. Mobile and text editing two of our weakest areas. A lot more work ahead of us but we'll get there!

Ivan

We love notion and pay you all a lot of money. Please please fix the search
What do you find wrong with the search? It's pretty good for me, except one day where the indexing must have screwed up and it was ignoring the thing I knew was there.
Since it's Electron-based are you open to the idea of supporting Linux instead of just Windows/Mac?
>Alan Kay, Doug Engelbart, Ted Nelson

It is impressive that your work is directly on top of the work done by the guy who invented the mouse, the guy who invented smalltalk and so on. Are you sure there were no inventions in between?

Give linux love. I was interested in trying it after reading comments, but as it is I can't touch it until there is a linux build.
Notion is a webapp. You can use it fine with a browser. I think everyone is missing the fact that the desktop apps are not necessary.
I downloaded the app months ago for my Mac but honestly forgot I even had it installed until I read this thread. I use the website every day just fine. There’s no need for the app.
I use Linux, am a heavy Notion user through the web app and I'm very happy. I'm not sure why people would want the desktop apps (I do use the android app for a bit of on he go reading and adding images).
Hi. Can you share how you think Notion is better than say Quip? I use Quip extensively but am open to trying something new.
Can you handle PHI? Because I can imagine letting small providers (like my wife) transmogrify this into their own personal EHR. If it can handle PHI.