[k9s9]

I am going to keep posting the ledger of harms - https://ledger.humanetech.com/

Until we see all the issues in one place like a github issue tracker, solutions will always be piece meal and confined to personal experience.

We need more issue trackers like this, so that people with solutions to one issue or another have some sense of the big picture. Also Big Tech cant weasel out of one issue by talking selectively about another.

Who knows, maybe one day we will get to proper integration/system wide testing for fixes to social issues...

[DyslexicAtheist]

I love this concept. I think it could benefit by branching out in a way that tracks different companies, then create different branches for these companies to track the people making these decisions. There is a huge problem with greedy and horrible individuals hiding behind a corporate structure. A company is by definition a group of people and since we treat companies now legally the same as people the same rules must apply. The reason why this works is the same as why shaming individuals who rape people (Weinstein, Stacey etc) works. The only way to improve things is by moving the goalposts in corporate ethics the same way it has been moved by the #metoo movement for sexual violence.

the reason why I think this works is that ethics is an individual thing that can only be applied on an individual level. If a CxO suggests to set up offshore structures to channel profits away then burn them to the ground (figuratively).

the tech to do it is already there: the darknet!

[k9s9]

"The only way" you are suggesting is not the only way.

Changing people's thinking and behavior, especially that of highly misguided characters in power, requires as Psychologist Marshall Rosenberg would say, choosing between Violence and Compassion.

Ideally for progress we want people to change the way they think about what they are doing, not spend their time defending it or how to get away with it. The latter being what we manage to keep doing.

This is where the choice of approach we take makes a huge difference.

Our Natural instinct is to choose violence, punishment, judgement, name and shame etc. We want to see heads role for suffering caused.

But this approach takes the focus off the suffering of the victim, and puts focus on how to cause pain to the perpetrator. It doesn't get perpetrators to change the way they think - to reflect. Instead they react - play defense, and spend their time and resources on avoiding and skirting punishment.

Think about this. Think about what Gandhi, MLK, Mandala did by not choosing this route. They didn't allow perpetrators to play that game. They showed us there is a big difference in outcomes when we tell a man - look at the pain you have caused VS you are <LABEL> and will be punished for the pain you have caused.

This ledger of harms concept is great, because it keeps focus on the suffering produced. It makes people in power squirm and reflect. Which is what plants the seeds of change. They will feel the need to change, just as the British Empire, US Govt or the South African govts did.

But as soon as you add punishment to each issue their focus will shift to self defense at all cost.

[drak0n1c]

Confusion, rumor, and misinterpretation sparking mob rule and misguided shaming is one of the technological excesses listed on the ledger. Hopefully humanity is learning to be more careful before rushing to "burn" people's lives to the ground (which destroys their capacity to be a productive contributor to society, their capacity to do social good and harm, and their family). The social movements you mentioned are also damaged by infighting and public scrutiny when outlying elements do not hesitate to take them to excess.