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The fact that people keep repeating the "messy shell scripts" fallacy is proof of how effective systemd propaganda has been. The vast majority of Linux systems on the planet, which ship software made by Google, do not run systemd.

[AsyncAwait]

> The vast majority of Linux systems on the planet, which ship software made by Google, do not run systemd.

WTF? Are you talking about Android? The user does not even interact with the init system on Android at all, what are you even talking about?

It's not "systemd propaganda" that has been effective, it's the anti-systemd propaganda that seems to get dumber every time I see it.

[0xbadcafebee]

The user almost never interacts with any init system, unless they are starting up, shutting down, or doing some weird maintenance. It's an "initialization" system.

Honestly, none of this crap matters at all. You can get by just fine with init scripts, and you can get by just fine with systemd services. Except for a few people in the world who have applications that are really sensitive to either fast boot times or really complex system dependencies, any init system will work.

[AsyncAwait]

> The user almost never interacts with any init system

I write service files pretty regularly. If you're a sysadmin, developer or an enthusiast on Linux. you definitely interact with the init system.

If you're a regular Android app developer however, you normally don't do that.

[peterwwillis]

I guess I forgot about all those users that constantly modify their operating system's software design.