[sgarman]

This reminds me a bit of the scammy motivational speakers that get people to buy their plans and go to their events. On one hand theres some value in there, some people really change their life. On the other hand the end of the tunnel for the speakers is money. With both of these things in mind it's hard to know is this something I need and how much do I need it since the other party is monetarily motivated for me to need it. It's possible it starts out with the goal of helping people but I'm always worried about if or when it starts to cross that line. Maybe I'm being out of line, interested in thoughts.

[camerondare]

It's certainly a valid concern and something I think is always worth being in the discussion. Personally the way we've navigated this is making sure you don't (need) any of the paid programs to succeed - all of the help and more is available either for free on youtube or with peer support on the forums. The paid programs are only a curated version of the content with a few bonuses like extra worksheets.